I have a concern when I read this diagram. I believe that the human nature problem throughout civilization as documented by Luke Kemp and his book the curse of Goliath is that the smart and strongest people accumulate the wealth and power for themselves and the more they have the more they want until the structure becomes brittle and the civilization collapses. If indeed incoming inequality is one of the most important variables, this diagram really misses that point. Research on those countries that have the best distribution of wealth are those that at one time were hit with some large catastrophe like a plague, famine or world war like Japan, Germany, generally north Europe, especially Scandinavia and it was also true in the United States after the Great Depression we had a period where we distributed the wealth better but now the rich are again In Control. The diagram misses this and therefore I think is misleading. It's the income inequality which causes most of the other factors diagram. For instance, the wealthy by the government.. the wealthy by the media. The wealthy destroy democratic institutions because when everybody votes, they would vote to distribute the money from the wealthy to the poor and the wealthy. Don't want the poor to vote because they call that socialism. I call a democracy. The wealthy, libertarian and Peter Thiel and others say the democracy and freedom cannot go together because in his mind, freedom is the freedom to do whatever you damn pleased without regulation by the government. So I think we need more Care in the way we set up our call loop diagrams. There is inherently a value system, and a hypothesis, even in the initial construction of cause a loop diagram and how it's put together. Here to four I've been rather blind to this foundational value system. In future, I would build a Cole loop diagram to understand how to build the desirable variable that we're focussing on. For instance, what are the factors that contribute to building a sound democracy which of of course relies on social cohesion and trust.
So, I'll put trying your version 7 with different questions about the same general issue and I may learn to generate a CLD and discussion which guides conversation in the general direction that I think will lead to my view of a better society.
I recall we talked about this once and I built a model though I think it was in the prototype app from Mike which has evaporated. Jeffrey Sachs says all world problems can be traced back to the British. I could do a model on A Decolonized World, though presently it seems I'm all tied up.
Sachs and a lot of other people say a lot of things. SOme have never forgiven Sachs for his role in advising shock therapy after the fall of the SOviet Union. Isabel Weber contrasts the CHina Transition "Crossing the river by feeling for the stones" in her book "How China Escaped Shock Therapy" ---- an alternative to the bridge metaphor
I have a concern when I read this diagram. I believe that the human nature problem throughout civilization as documented by Luke Kemp and his book the curse of Goliath is that the smart and strongest people accumulate the wealth and power for themselves and the more they have the more they want until the structure becomes brittle and the civilization collapses. If indeed incoming inequality is one of the most important variables, this diagram really misses that point. Research on those countries that have the best distribution of wealth are those that at one time were hit with some large catastrophe like a plague, famine or world war like Japan, Germany, generally north Europe, especially Scandinavia and it was also true in the United States after the Great Depression we had a period where we distributed the wealth better but now the rich are again In Control. The diagram misses this and therefore I think is misleading. It's the income inequality which causes most of the other factors diagram. For instance, the wealthy by the government.. the wealthy by the media. The wealthy destroy democratic institutions because when everybody votes, they would vote to distribute the money from the wealthy to the poor and the wealthy. Don't want the poor to vote because they call that socialism. I call a democracy. The wealthy, libertarian and Peter Thiel and others say the democracy and freedom cannot go together because in his mind, freedom is the freedom to do whatever you damn pleased without regulation by the government. So I think we need more Care in the way we set up our call loop diagrams. There is inherently a value system, and a hypothesis, even in the initial construction of cause a loop diagram and how it's put together. Here to four I've been rather blind to this foundational value system. In future, I would build a Cole loop diagram to understand how to build the desirable variable that we're focussing on. For instance, what are the factors that contribute to building a sound democracy which of of course relies on social cohesion and trust.
The diagram produced is highly dependent on the question one asks.
So, I'll put trying your version 7 with different questions about the same general issue and I may learn to generate a CLD and discussion which guides conversation in the general direction that I think will lead to my view of a better society.
Be most interested to see the results.
In an effort to get my emails to talk with each other outside my head This reminded me of this thoughful piece Perhaps healing a broken world https://richarddavidhames.substack.com/p/a-decolonised-world. WHat is your closest posting?
I recall we talked about this once and I built a model though I think it was in the prototype app from Mike which has evaporated. Jeffrey Sachs says all world problems can be traced back to the British. I could do a model on A Decolonized World, though presently it seems I'm all tied up.
Sachs and a lot of other people say a lot of things. SOme have never forgiven Sachs for his role in advising shock therapy after the fall of the SOviet Union. Isabel Weber contrasts the CHina Transition "Crossing the river by feeling for the stones" in her book "How China Escaped Shock Therapy" ---- an alternative to the bridge metaphor