25.06.12 WKID AI Exchange 14
On 6/19 We’ll chat about the relationship between systems engineering and systems thinking and maybe about social engineering if we have time.
The WKID AI Exchange meets weekly on Tuesdays & Thursdays.
* Tue 11 am New York Time - no meeting on 6/17
* Thu 5 pm New York Time
If you'd like to participate, email systemswiki@gmail.com, and we'll send you the connect info.
Introduction
- The AI Exchange was set up to help people keep track of developments in the AI space, but it's struggling to keep up with the rapid pace of change 01:03
A suggestion is made to turn the AI Exchange into a collective support group where participants can discuss their projects and share demonstrations, with a topic-oriented structure on Discord 02:08
Gene has been running the AI Exchange for a couple of months and is looking for ways to generate more interest and interaction among participants, including selecting a topic for each session and sharing it on the Discord server 04:06
Abby shares her experience with Notebook LM, a tool that generates mind maps, and how she uses custom software to extract the HTML and create a table for easier navigation 06:48
Demonstration of Notebook LM
- Abby demonstrates her software and how it can consume the table generated from the mind map, allowing for more manageable visualization of complex data 10:33
A mind map from Notebook LM was outputted into software for a deeper dive, allowing users to copy text and use it in Google Sheets or Docs 14:52
The idea of creating a community and support group for people working on AI projects was discussed, with the possibility of using a Discord server for topic segments and continued discussion 19:32
Community and Goal Setting
The initial intent of the sessions was to have people share their experiences with AI and provide thoughts on what others could use it for, but it was noted that the sessions may not be addressing this intent to a great degree 20:52 - Having a goal can help bring people together and keep them focused, with the dynamic of people having a purpose and coming back to share their progress 29:44
Some groups are successful because they have a certain goal, built momentum, and a core group of attendees, while others may lose energy over time 33:40
Establishing a regular cadence, such as a fixed meeting time, and having a theme or topic, like AI, can help a group stay focused and attract new members 38:01
Development is considered more important than growth, as a group of people can develop and evolve without necessarily growing in size, creating value for participants 44:39
The thing that binds societies or groups together is the common needs that they need each other for, and problematic problems can serve as the glue that unites people 45:37
The conversation is driven by the need to make sense of AI, which is a complex and multifaceted issue, and people are drawn to it because they have a problem to solve 47:35
AI and Perspective
The introduction of AI can potentially lead to a loss of ability to handle diverse opinions and may cause people to become too comfortable with a single perspective, leading to a lack of empathy and understanding 51:12
It's essential to learn how to deal with defensiveness and develop the capacity to consider multiple perspectives, especially when interacting with AI systems that can provide a sense of comfort and confirmation 53:59
Identifying stakeholders and documenting assumptions are crucial steps in problem-solving, as they help to incorporate different perspectives and challenge subconscious assumptions 56:15
The discussion involves identifying assumptions and understanding when people are lying, with the help of AI, which can analyze internet data and step into the shoes of stakeholders 58:10 - The approach is to look at classes of stakeholders, rather than individuals, and document assumptions to be challenged by others, ensuring a two-step process of identification and validation 59:05
The conversation also touches on the use of AI in problem-solving, including chemical engineering problems, and the importance of expanding the universe of stakeholders to gain a deeper understanding of the issues 01:00:23
AI in Problem-Solving and Future Topics
The conversation involves discussing ways to bring AI into existing work or to make sense of AI in problem-solving, and how to inform others that this is a place for such conversations to happen 01:11:29
Randall is attracted to the conversation due to the opportunity to learn and coitate with peers, and he brings insights on systems, including social engineering and systems thinking 01:11:47 - Potential topics for the next session include social engineering and systems thinking, with Randall offering to put these in the notes for the next discussion 01:14:55
Chat Text
17:11:48 From Gene Bellinger : Abundance by Ezra Klein https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7RLJSQD/
17:23:24 From Avi Dear : https://www.groupone.us/